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Why is this Important?man

This is important because a little error can lead to a lot of lies. The Bible says, "A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough," (Gal. 5:8).
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Is The Shack Dangerous?

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Yes, the book is dangerous because it hides false doctrines in a feel-good story and presents to Christians a form of God that is not biblical. 
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But it is only fiction!!pencil

So what if its fiction? Is it okay to speak for God in a fiction book and also directly contradict His word in the process -- as long as people feel better about God?
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Quotes from The Shack

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"Whoa,' said Papa [God the Father], who had returned from the kitchen with yet another dish. 'Take it easy on those greens, young man. Those things can give you the trots if you ain't careful.'"
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Questions for Mr. Young

questions1.  Should Christian fiction try to represent God as accurately as possible or is it okay to actually contradict scripture if the intent is to make God seem more palatable to people?

2. Do you see any danger to Christians, and others, in speaking for God, putting words in his mouth, and having him say things that directly contradict His revealed word? (Think of Mormonism, Jehovah’s Witnesses, Christian Science, Islam, etc.) 
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God the Father cannot be seen


Check out these verses in the Bible so you can see that The Father cannot be seen and has never been seen.  Who were they seeing in the O.T.?  They were seeing the pre-incarnate Christ.  The Shack is wrong.  God the Father cannot be seen.

God is seen

  • Gen. 17:1, "Now when Abram was ninety-nine years old, the LORD appeared to Abram and said to him, "I am God Almighty; walk before Me, and be blameless."
  • Gen. 18:1, "Now the LORD appeared to him by the oaks of Mamre, while he was sitting at the tent door in the heat of the day."
  • Ex. 6:2-3, "God spoke further to Moses and said to him, ‘I am the LORD; and I appeared to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as God Almighty, but by My name LORD I did not make myself known to them.'"
  • Exodus 24:9-11, "Then Moses went up with Aaron, Nadab and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, and they saw the God of Israel; and under His feet there appeared to be a pavement of sapphire, as clear as the sky itself. Yet He did not stretch out His hand against the nobles of the sons of Israel; and they beheld God, and they ate and drank."
  • Exodus 33:11, "Thus the LORD used to speak to Moses face to face, just as a man speaks to his friend..."
  • Num. 12:6-8, "He [God] said, "Hear now My words: If there is a prophet among you, I, the LORD, shall make Myself known to him in a vision. I shall speak with him in a dream. Not so, with My servant Moses, He is faithful in all My household; with him I speak mouth to mouth, even openly, and not in dark sayings, and he beholds the form of the LORD..."
  • Acts 7:2, "And he [Stephen] said, "Hear me, brethren and fathers! The God of glory appeared to our father Abraham when he was in Mesopotamia, before he lived in Haran...."
Can't see God:
 
  • Exodus 33:20, "But He [God] said, ‘You cannot see My face, for no man can see Me and live!'"
  • John 1:18, "No man has seen God at any time; the only begotten God, who is in the bosom of the Father; He has explained Him."
  • 1 Tim. 6:16, "[God] who alone possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light; whom no man has seen or can see."
  • John 6:46, "Not that any man has seen the Father except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father."
  • John 8:58, "Jesus said to them, "Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was born, I am."
  • Exodus 3:14, "And God said to Moses, ‘I AM WHO I AM'; and He said, ‘Thus you shall say to the sons of Israel, ‘I AM has sent me to you.'"
  • Zech. 12:10, "And I [God] will pour out on the house of David and on the inhabitants of Jerusalem, the Spirit of grace and of supplication, so that they will look on Me whom they have pierced; and they will mourn for Him, as one mourns for an only son..."

Answer

If the people of the OT were seeing God, the Almighty God, and Jesus said that no one has ever seen the Father (John 6:46), then they were seeing God Almighty, but not the Father. They were seeing the pre-incarnate Jesus; compare John 8:58 with Exodus 3:14 above.

God is a Trinity of divine persons:  Father, Son, and Holy Spirit.  It is the Son who represents God to us and it is through Jesus that God has chosen to reveal himself.  The Father cannot be seen (1 Tim. 6:16) which is why it says, "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father (John 14:9).  After all, Jesus is the exact representation of the Father (Heb. 1:3).  He is not the Father.